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Post by OttselHero on Oct 18, 2014 19:09:07 GMT -5
I've been thinking about possibly buying a new PSP since the system is now out of print, and my 1000 model is a little worn. Though it may not deter my decision to buy one, does anyone know if the buttons feel any sturdier? The 1000 model's buttons felt cheap even when it was new, and now the square and X buttons are almost worn out entirely (which is problematic considering how much more often I play my PS3 compared to my PSP, and the buttons on my SIXAXIS controller are still fine). I'd like my new system to last me a long time, or at least until the UMD-only games I enjoy are released digitally, in which case I might consider getting a Vita or some later iteration of a Sony portable.
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Post by Tross on Oct 20, 2014 2:13:46 GMT -5
I'm a late adopter, so the 3000 is my first and only PSP, and I wouldn't know how the 1000 feels by comparison. That said, the buttons don't feel as sturdy as a regular Dualshock, but I've never had a problem with them. It's the analog stick that I have an issue with, since it pulls a little to the left, despite the fact that I haven't been that hard on it, and this problem popped up within a couple years of getting the system, around the time when I played through Daxter. The analog stick is obviously not built very sturdily, but for the most part, I haven't had any problems with my 3000. Again, I haven't had it nearly as long as you've had your 1000.
I would recommend getting a Vita instead, depending on how many existing UMDs you have, whether or not you'll be willing to rebuy them via PSN, and which PSP titles interest you that you don't already have. The majority of PSP titles are compatible with the Vita, and you'll be able to play Vita games too. Moreover, the analog sticks are better built and feel more like actual analog sticks. If you have a decent sized collection of UMDs built up though, maybe you should look into getting a 3000 off of Amazon or something. There aren't too many UMD only games. I know Birth By Sleep is one, but physical only is uncommon for PSP titles. Which other games do you have that are UMD only?
I suppose authenticity is a good incentive to stick with the original system for the games. I'm a big fan of that, and I kept my 3000 for that purpose. Well, that and a sizeable chunk of my backlog is on UMDs. Of course, Vita memory is even more ridiculous than Pro-Duos, so I don't play PS1 classics on my Vita either. Messing with account activation for other regional accounts is way more ideal on the PSP than the Vita, but I doubt that's a priority for you. In any case, I'm sure you can still find new PSP 3000s online, and I doubt they've inflated in price yet. Then again, you won't know for sure until you look for yourself.
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Post by OttselHero on Oct 20, 2014 9:28:57 GMT -5
I'm a late adopter, so the 3000 is my first and only PSP, and I wouldn't know how the 1000 feels by comparison. That said, the buttons don't feel as sturdy as a regular Dualshock, but I've never had a problem with them. It's the analog stick that I have an issue with, since it pulls a little to the left, despite the fact that I haven't been that hard on it, and this problem popped up within a couple years of getting the system, around the time when I played through Daxter. The analog stick is obviously not built very sturdily, but for the most part, I haven't had any problems with my 3000. Again, I haven't had it nearly as long as you've had your 1000. I would recommend getting a Vita instead, depending on how many existing UMDs you have, whether or not you'll be willing to rebuy them via PSN, and which PSP titles interest you that you don't already have. The majority of PSP titles are compatible with the Vita, and you'll be able to play Vita games too. Moreover, the analog sticks are better built and feel more like actual analog sticks. If you have a decent sized collection of UMDs built up though, maybe you should look into getting a 3000 off of Amazon or something. There aren't too many UMD only games. I know Birth By Sleep is one, but physical only is uncommon for PSP titles. Which other games do you have that are UMD only? I suppose authenticity is a good incentive to stick with the original system for the games. I'm a big fan of that, and I kept my 3000 for that purpose. Well, that and a sizeable chunk of my backlog is on UMDs. Of course, Vita memory is even more ridiculous than Pro-Duos, so I don't play PS1 classics on my Vita either. Messing with account activation for other regional accounts is way more ideal on the PSP than the Vita, but I doubt that's a priority for you. In any case, I'm sure you can still find new PSP 3000s online, and I doubt they've inflated in price yet. Then again, you won't know for sure until you look for yourself. Birth By Sleep is one of them, though I'm not worried since it's coming out on the PS3 pretty soon. However, I also have Dissidia: Final Fantasy and Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII, which I don't think are available digitally yet. Both games are important to me, and I'd very much like to be able to play them again. Despite how bad the analog stick is on the 3000, I've heard it's actually an improvement over the 1000 and 2000. The stick rises higher above the plate, which I think will be a very welcome change since I'm always rubbing against the plate. I've also heard that it cradles the player's thumb better, which is nice considering how often my thumb would slip off of my 1000 model's analog stick. As for the buttons, I might just have to cross my fingers that they're built better; I feel like that was my #1 issue with the 1000 model that needs to be addressed. Actually, the prices of PSP's have inflated a little already; it used to cost $99 for a new unit, but now that price is jacked up to $135. And sadly it's only the piano finish, which I understand displays fingerprints and scratches very noticeably. Though I've been interested in a change of color myself; that Mystic Silver look is very appealing to me. I'll likely have to buy used. Though maybe not right this moment; we'll see in a few months, perhaps. EDIT: Oh. By the looks of things, Dissidia: Duodecim is available digitally (and beating it unlocks the original game), so now I'm on the mental track of getting a Vita. That does leave Crisis Core in question, but I could always just used my 1000 model specifically for that. I'll have to think it over. EDIT 2: Can the PlayStation Vita be outputted to an HDTV? I've been looking to start uploading "Let's Plays" to YouTube, so the output functionality of the PSP 2000/3000 also plays as a contributing factor.
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Post by Tross on Oct 20, 2014 12:54:41 GMT -5
I haven't tried outputting the vita to an HD TV, but I'm not really the tech savvy type (though part of me wants to start an LP channel as well sometime). That's something you'll have to look into, but I imagine so, since it's a modern system that was originally advertised as a console quality handheld, and there are vids online of people displaying their PS3 through it via remote play. I would be surprised if it doesn't work the other way around too. If nothing else, the Vita is solid for handheld hardware, and Sony is aware of the popularity of Livestreams and LPs, so I doubt they would have overlooked that feature. Are you sure Crisis Core isn't available digitally? It has been ages since I've browsed through the PSP channel. Thanks to the Vita though, I doubt the PSP channel is going anywhere anytime soon. Plenty of digital PSP games are available for as low as $10, and sometimes even less, and the majority work on the Vita.
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Post by OttselHero on Oct 20, 2014 23:37:49 GMT -5
I haven't tried outputting the vita to an HD TV, but I'm not really the tech savvy type (though part of me wants to start an LP channel as well sometime). That's something you'll have to look into, but I imagine so, since it's a modern system that was originally advertised as a console quality handheld, and there are vids online of people displaying their PS3 through it via remote play. I would be surprised if it doesn't work the other way around too. If nothing else, the Vita is solid for handheld hardware, and Sony is aware of the popularity of Livestreams and LPs, so I doubt they would have overlooked that feature. Are you sure Crisis Core isn't available digitally? It has been ages since I've browsed through the PSP channel. Thanks to the Vita though, I doubt the PSP channel is going anywhere anytime soon. Plenty of digital PSP games are available for as low as $10, and sometimes even less, and the majority work on the Vita. I'm seeing a lot of YouTube videos of people playing their PS3 on their PSVita, but not so much the other way around; I did find one guy who seemed like he needed to buy some sort of converter to bypass some kind of encryption in order for it to do what I'd like. I'm guessing Sony didn't intend for Vita to do what the PSP did, which I find odd. Still, I'm intrigued by the thought of rebuying my PSP games and playing them in higher quality, so I think there might just be a Vita in my future; however I might wait for a price drop as I think $200 is still too far out of the ballpark for me. Yep, I checked the PlayStation Store and nothing comes up when I type "Crisis Core". It doesn't make much sense considering the demand for it.
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Post by Tross on Oct 21, 2014 11:20:00 GMT -5
I haven't tried outputting the vita to an HD TV, but I'm not really the tech savvy type (though part of me wants to start an LP channel as well sometime). That's something you'll have to look into, but I imagine so, since it's a modern system that was originally advertised as a console quality handheld, and there are vids online of people displaying their PS3 through it via remote play. I would be surprised if it doesn't work the other way around too. If nothing else, the Vita is solid for handheld hardware, and Sony is aware of the popularity of Livestreams and LPs, so I doubt they would have overlooked that feature. Are you sure Crisis Core isn't available digitally? It has been ages since I've browsed through the PSP channel. Thanks to the Vita though, I doubt the PSP channel is going anywhere anytime soon. Plenty of digital PSP games are available for as low as $10, and sometimes even less, and the majority work on the Vita. I'm seeing a lot of YouTube videos of people playing their PS3 on their PSVita, but not so much the other way around; I did find one guy who seemed like he needed to buy some sort of converter to bypass some kind of encryption in order for it to do what I'd like. I'm guessing Sony didn't intend for Vita to do what the PSP did, which I find odd. Still, I'm intrigued by the thought of rebuying my PSP games and playing them in higher quality, so I think there might just be a Vita in my future; however I might wait for a price drop as I think $200 is still too far out of the ballpark for me. Yep, I checked the PlayStation Store and nothing comes up when I type "Crisis Core". It doesn't make much sense considering the demand for it. That may be a SE problem. All the games you listed are SE games, and in the past gen they've been the company who doesn't do what the consumer wants, and does what they don't want them to. Their own agenda has uncrowned them, as they are no longer considered the king of JRPGs. I suppose their reception on the Eidos front has been more positive, but if the company's in the red, it's their own fault.
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Post by OttselHero on Oct 22, 2014 10:17:06 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of YouTube videos of people playing their PS3 on their PSVita, but not so much the other way around; I did find one guy who seemed like he needed to buy some sort of converter to bypass some kind of encryption in order for it to do what I'd like. I'm guessing Sony didn't intend for Vita to do what the PSP did, which I find odd. Still, I'm intrigued by the thought of rebuying my PSP games and playing them in higher quality, so I think there might just be a Vita in my future; however I might wait for a price drop as I think $200 is still too far out of the ballpark for me. Yep, I checked the PlayStation Store and nothing comes up when I type "Crisis Core". It doesn't make much sense considering the demand for it. That may be a SE problem. All the games you listed are SE games, and in the past gen they've been the company who doesn't do what the consumer wants, and does what they don't want them to. Their own agenda has uncrowned them, as they are no longer considered the king of JRPGs. I suppose their reception on the Eidos front has been more positive, but if the company's in the red, it's their own fault. Sounds suspiciously like Scamco. "What's that? You want a Final Fantasy VII remake? How about 2 sequels to your least favorite game in the series instead?" I also revisited the video that I thought featured a guy playing his Vita on his TV; I was wrong, that was also just standard remote play (what he needed the converter for, I know not). I did find a video of someone unboxing an officially licensed capture card, but it's only from Japan and it costs double the Vita's price tag.
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Post by Tross on Oct 22, 2014 12:39:23 GMT -5
That may be a SE problem. All the games you listed are SE games, and in the past gen they've been the company who doesn't do what the consumer wants, and does what they don't want them to. Their own agenda has uncrowned them, as they are no longer considered the king of JRPGs. I suppose their reception on the Eidos front has been more positive, but if the company's in the red, it's their own fault. Sounds suspiciously like Scamco. "What's that? You want a Final Fantasy VII remake? Hope about 2 sequels to your least favorite game in the series instead?" I also revisited the video that I thought featured a guy playing his Vita on his TV; I was wrong, that was also just standard remote play (what he needed the converter for, I know not). I did find a video of someone unboxing an officially licensed capture card, but it's only from Japan and it costs double the Vita's price tag. From what I hear, the Playstation TV should work for that purpose. Perhaps Sony has its agendas like everyone else, and is trying to push a new system. I don't know if the Playstation TV will work for PSP games though. I am surprised the standard Vita doesn't have all the accessories it needs for TV play. I'm sure there are ways to work around it. Maybe you should see if there are some tech savvy individuals who have posted vids of creative solutions. Yeah, and how about a Chrono Trigger sequel? Actually, I heard Square shot that idea down well before merging with Enix, so maybe even they weren't the saints they're made out to be. Scamco's another company characterized by corporate greed, but I will concede that they've earned a few points for stepping up localizations of Tales of games, as well as publishing Ni no Kuni in NA. While I doubt they're seeing anything but dollar signs, they have at least been smart enough to see the opening left by SE and capitalize on it to put their jrpg franchise in front. Sure, NISA has done the same with Atelier, but Scamco has additional brand power that they can capitalize on. They're still Scamco for the time being, but they're on an upward trajectory IMHO, in contrast to companies like Capcom and the aforementioned SE.
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Post by OttselHero on Oct 23, 2014 0:03:52 GMT -5
Sounds suspiciously like Scamco. "What's that? You want a Final Fantasy VII remake? Hope about 2 sequels to your least favorite game in the series instead?" I also revisited the video that I thought featured a guy playing his Vita on his TV; I was wrong, that was also just standard remote play (what he needed the converter for, I know not). I did find a video of someone unboxing an officially licensed capture card, but it's only from Japan and it costs double the Vita's price tag. From what I hear, the Playstation TV should work for that purpose. Perhaps Sony has its agendas like everyone else, and is trying to push a new system. I don't know if the Playstation TV will work for PSP games though. I am surprised the standard Vita doesn't have all the accessories it needs for TV play. I'm sure there are ways to work around it. Maybe you should see if there are some tech savvy individuals who have posted vids of creative solutions. Yeah, and how about a Chrono Trigger sequel? Actually, I heard Square shot that idea down well before merging with Enix, so maybe even they weren't the saints they're made out to be. Scamco's another company characterized by corporate greed, but I will concede that they've earned a few points for stepping up localizations of Tales of games, as well as publishing Ni no Kuni in NA. While I doubt they're seeing anything but dollar signs, they have at least been smart enough to see the opening left by SE and capitalize on it to put their jrpg franchise in front. Sure, NISA has done the same with Atelier, but Scamco has additional brand power that they can capitalize on. They're still Scamco for the time being, but they're on an upward trajectory IMHO, in contrast to companies like Capcom and the aforementioned SE. I've searched extensively for ways to play the Vita on an HDTV, but I've had no luck. I guess that puts me back on the teeter-totter between getting a Vita or a PSP 3000. I've heard that the PlayStation TV is terrible; I've heard many complaints that it's incompatible with the vast majority of games. I don't know if there's a way to tell which games would work and which wouldn't, but it doesn't sound like something that's worth having at the moment.
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Post by Tross on Oct 23, 2014 1:23:20 GMT -5
From what I hear, the Playstation TV should work for that purpose. Perhaps Sony has its agendas like everyone else, and is trying to push a new system. I don't know if the Playstation TV will work for PSP games though. I am surprised the standard Vita doesn't have all the accessories it needs for TV play. I'm sure there are ways to work around it. Maybe you should see if there are some tech savvy individuals who have posted vids of creative solutions. Yeah, and how about a Chrono Trigger sequel? Actually, I heard Square shot that idea down well before merging with Enix, so maybe even they weren't the saints they're made out to be. Scamco's another company characterized by corporate greed, but I will concede that they've earned a few points for stepping up localizations of Tales of games, as well as publishing Ni no Kuni in NA. While I doubt they're seeing anything but dollar signs, they have at least been smart enough to see the opening left by SE and capitalize on it to put their jrpg franchise in front. Sure, NISA has done the same with Atelier, but Scamco has additional brand power that they can capitalize on. They're still Scamco for the time being, but they're on an upward trajectory IMHO, in contrast to companies like Capcom and the aforementioned SE. I've searched extensively for ways to play the Vita on an HDTV, but I've had no luck. I guess that puts me back on the teeter-totter between getting a Vita or a PSP 3000. I've heard that the PlayStation TV is terrible; I've heard many complaints that it's incompatible with the vast majority of games. I don't know if there's a way to tell which games would work and which wouldn't, but it doesn't sound like something that's worth having at the moment. Well, I certainly have no interest in the Playstation TV, since I already have a Vita. It's ultimately your decision what to do. I'm happy with both my PSP 3000 and Vita, but I haven't really delved into the features you're looking for. I had no idea the Vita was so limited, though it doesn't surprise me at all that the Playstation TV isn't well received.
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Post by OttselHero on Oct 23, 2014 10:28:10 GMT -5
I've searched extensively for ways to play the Vita on an HDTV, but I've had no luck. I guess that puts me back on the teeter-totter between getting a Vita or a PSP 3000. I've heard that the PlayStation TV is terrible; I've heard many complaints that it's incompatible with the vast majority of games. I don't know if there's a way to tell which games would work and which wouldn't, but it doesn't sound like something that's worth having at the moment. Well, I certainly have no interest in the Playstation TV, since I already have a Vita. It's ultimately your decision what to do. I'm happy with both my PSP 3000 and Vita, but I haven't really delved into the features you're looking for. I had no idea the Vita was so limited, though it doesn't surprise me at all that the Playstation TV isn't well received. I think what I might do is this: buy a Vita for personal entertainment, and then later buy a used PlayStation TV for Let's Plays (I'd probably pay as much as $50, but no more) seeing as I wouldn't have to re-buy the games I bought on my Vita. That still leaves Crisis Core in the dark, but I still have my 1000 model for that. Plus, I think it would be realistic to say that Square Enix will remaster it someday; if they do decide to remake Final Fantasy VII, they'll probably do something like that before it comes out. I'm still going to wait for a price drop, though; since the Vita is pretty much dead right now, I can see there being a $50 price drop coming within the next year. EDIT: Aw, man! The PSP remakes of Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy II aren't available digitally either! T_T
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Post by Tross on Oct 23, 2014 11:21:28 GMT -5
Well, I certainly have no interest in the Playstation TV, since I already have a Vita. It's ultimately your decision what to do. I'm happy with both my PSP 3000 and Vita, but I haven't really delved into the features you're looking for. I had no idea the Vita was so limited, though it doesn't surprise me at all that the Playstation TV isn't well received. I think what I might do is this: buy a Vita for personal entertainment, and then later buy a used PlayStation TV for Let's Plays (I'd probably pay as much as $50, but no more) seeing as I wouldn't have to re-buy the games I bought on my Vita. That still leaves Crisis Core in the dark, but I still have my 1000 model for that. Plus, I think it would be realistic to say that Square Enix will remaster it someday; if they do decide to remake Final Fantasy VII, they'll probably do something like that before it comes out. I'm still going to wait for a price drop, though; since the Vita is pretty much dead right now, I can see there being a $50 price drop coming within the next year. EDIT: Aw, man! The PSP remakes of Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy II aren't available digitally either! T_T Guess who made those? Seems like SE has been against making money for awhile. It would probably be a little late for them to add those games to the PS Store now, but they should have ages ago. Wow, they really are out of touch with the industry. Atlus, NISA and every other studio behind JRPGs made sure their games were available on the store as soon as it picked up in popularity.
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Post by OttselHero on Oct 23, 2014 23:35:13 GMT -5
I think what I might do is this: buy a Vita for personal entertainment, and then later buy a used PlayStation TV for Let's Plays (I'd probably pay as much as $50, but no more) seeing as I wouldn't have to re-buy the games I bought on my Vita. That still leaves Crisis Core in the dark, but I still have my 1000 model for that. Plus, I think it would be realistic to say that Square Enix will remaster it someday; if they do decide to remake Final Fantasy VII, they'll probably do something like that before it comes out. I'm still going to wait for a price drop, though; since the Vita is pretty much dead right now, I can see there being a $50 price drop coming within the next year. EDIT: Aw, man! The PSP remakes of Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy II aren't available digitally either! T_T Guess who made those? Seems like SE has been against making money for awhile. It would probably be a little late for them to add those games to the PS Store now, but they should have ages ago. Wow, they really are out of touch with the industry. Atlus, NISA and every other studio behind JRPGs made sure their games were available on the store as soon as it picked up in popularity. All these years, I would have thought that maybe Square Enix had some grand "plan", or at least some plausible explanation as to why they've been shying away from irresistible opportunities to make a lot of money. They used to be fan service-y to a degree (i.e. Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children), but now it's as if they think they're too good to give fans what they desire.
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Post by Tross on Oct 24, 2014 16:58:37 GMT -5
Guess who made those? Seems like SE has been against making money for awhile. It would probably be a little late for them to add those games to the PS Store now, but they should have ages ago. Wow, they really are out of touch with the industry. Atlus, NISA and every other studio behind JRPGs made sure their games were available on the store as soon as it picked up in popularity. All these years, I would have thought that maybe Square Enix had some grand "plan", or at least some plausible explanation as to why they've been shying away from irresistible opportunities to make a lot of money. They used to be fan service-y to a degree (i.e. Final Fantasy X-2, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children), but now it's as if they think they're too good to give fans what they desire. Actually, there's evidence that even Square had their moments where they went against fans. Case in point, they supposedly refused to continue the Chrono Trigger series after Chrono Cross, despite Nomura pushing for it.
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Post by OttselHero on Oct 26, 2014 15:49:08 GMT -5
I've done some additional research on the PlayStation Vita. It appears that Sony quietly released a slimmer 2000 model earlier this year; when I learned this, I knew I had to look up comparison videos on YouTube. It seems that compared to the 1000 model, it is quite inferior. Or at least in terms of screen quality. The 1000 model sports a brighter, more vibrant OLED screen whereas the 2000 model uses an LCD screen that completely washes out the colors in exchange for an additional 1 hour of battery life. That's not worth it to me, however I am partially intrigued by the fact that the 2000 model has wider finger holds on the backside so that it's not as easy to accidentally touch the rear touch pad (especially considering how big my hands are). However I feel that the screen quality is of high importance, so I'll try to get my hands on one of those. And by the looks of things, the 1000 model can still be bought new from Amazon sellers at $150, which is an agreeable enough price, I think (though it does not come with a Micro SD card if that's the case). So what do you think? Have you ever had your hands on both systems to conclude that the 2000 model's screen is that much worse, or is it possible that the videos make the difference more noticeable than it really is?
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